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Hi Satnam,

Have you had a reply yet?

The members of the comite stated publicly that they would ALWAYS answer enquiries which were polite and respectful - and yours seemed both to me.

Perhaps they're too busy counting their recently received 25,000,000 centimos?

Keep asking there's qute a large number of owners interested in hearing the answers.
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Hi griz616,
Assuming that there will be the availability of flights to virtually everywhere in Europe which is currently catered for by San Javier/Alicante, then for people wishing to visit Mosa/people from Mosa wishing to fly elsewhere, then (and when it's actually open & functioning in all respects) Corvera will be nearer than San Javier by around only some 15 minutes - hence my own lukewarm attitude to it all.
San Javier has a well-established :long-based infrastructure, and a proven track record.. If Corvera opens on just a slow & progressive basis, perhaps some of the entrepaneur companies may not be prepared to invest heavily there until it's up-and-running - or more literally, up-and-flying
By that, I mean car hire companies, taxi companies, a viable bus service, cafeterias, small shops, independent & cheap car-parking companies, popular supermarkets in fairly close proximity - all the assets which San Javier currently has and which people demand.

Currently, anyone wishing to visit anywhere West of Aguilas has an almost-equidistant choice of either San Javier/Corvera or Almeria. West of Aguilas, I suspect (prices being equitable) people would opt for Almeria.
So Corvera is unlikely to attract any new traffic for West of Aguilas. East of Aguilas is already catered for by them or San Javier - EXCEPT that Corvera "could" lose a considerable volume of people who currently fly to San Javier, but would transfer to Alicante in preference to using Corvera.
But I'm sure that this has all been taken into account?
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Hi jmitchell.
A vallid point, but as I live here and we have many visitors, unfortunately for me, "nearness" is simply relative.

Our visitors (possibly all visitors) are inevitively governed by the "convenience syndrome":
Where is the most convenient airport of departure TO THEM::
Which offer flights departing & returning at convenient dates and times FOR THEM::
THE COST!

I bow with no resistence whatsoever to THEIR travel plans - it entails for me a collect time of:
Corvera - 15 minute?.
San Javier - 30 minutes.
Alicante (my least favourite) but still only 50 minutes.

So in the WORST possible case, I make a round-trip saving of around 90 minutes: hardly life-threatening, and our visitors seem to enjoy the additional 30 minutes relaxing in the car and indulging in current gossip.

So from a personal aspect, I am totally underwhelmed about the prospect of Corvera - my regrets are for San Javier & the immediate surrounding area if San Javier is forced in to closure.
The economic climate in this area is dire enough already:closing San J will force many taxi drivers to re-appraise their future: at least 2 car-parks there will be left without a livelihood: the affect on the local workforce, and so it goes on.

I am also acutely aware that urbanisations like Corvera & Hacienda del Alamo are nearer to the airport than Mosa, and will possibly be more attractive to holiday tenants.

What what gains on the swings, one loses on the roundabouts?

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Hi CamperV I,
I live permanently on Mosa, and would love to hear the definitive answer about San Javier/Corvera. But like virtually everything here, it's the "same old, same old": there doesn't seem TO BE a definitve answer - just one rumour after another.
One reads the reports in the papers about other recently-completed airports in Spain which either achieve no more than 3% of projected passengers - or in one particular case, the mega-million airport hasn't yet managed to even have any landings at all..
I'm sure that Corvera would love to have all flights transferred from San Javier to them - it probably couldn't be financially viable for Corvera to compete with San Javiier on a level playing field, and the "easy" answer is for San Javier flights to be transferred to them on a compulsory basis.
But San Javier isn't so enthusiastic, as witnessed by the taxis who are carrying "hands off San Javier" placards on their cars, and losing the airport could be the kiss of death to San Javier..

My own gut feeling is that Corvera was planned (and financed) in the heady days before the economy went bumpo, and once agreed, no-one was either able, or even inclined, to re-assess the situation. So with Paramount in the offing, it was a regional/central government decision to try to ensure that Corvera was a success - even if it meant binning San Javier as a terrible consequence.
But Paramount is still years from opening, and Corvera has to survive until then.
If Corvera management is eminently sensible, they may achieve the budget airlines, Ryanair, Jet2 etc, If Corvera is not inclined to make hugely-attractive scales of charges, there is the acute danger that the "cheapies" will simply concentrate on Alicante.
It has to be bron in mind that Alicante is much more convenient and accessible to people living anywhere East of Playa Flemenca, and that's a huge market.
But whatever happens, "someone" is going to be a huge loser.
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If my translation is even anywhere near accurate, then all I can say to this article which recently appeared in La Opinion, is Oh my God!

Without prejudice.

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urbanization Mosa Trajectum, situated in the Murcian hamlet of Banos y Mendigo, has been re-possessed in the No. 2 main Court of Murcia. As a result of the foreclosure, the property will be offered for public auction and the bidding is scheduled to be held on 19 October.

The value of the auctioned lot amounts to 27,680,940 euros and to participate in the bidding, potential buyers must lodge eight million euros, 30% of the estimated sale value of the property by way of deposit.

The document against Key Condo Limited (which owns the Village), was issued last June, and it shows the definition of the auctioned property, which has a total area of ​​13,660 square metres.

The amazing thing about the property millionaire who is involved with this set date for public auction is that on his official website for Mosa Trajectum, it still devotes space and advertising with the claim "this great business opportunity" and offers the opportunity to buy and rent one of the units in the local shopping center that is excluded from the execution order that dealt with the default on the mortgage.

"Mosa Trajectum Shopping Village will include a hypermarket and 30 locations," explains the urbanization website, and highlights "its strategic location near the new airport at Corvera." . Although the shopping mall was promised to have an opening date in 2008, and with a commercial claim "that visitors will view it as the ultimate shopping destination", the fact is that currently there is no traders - as confirmed from the owner of the resort - Key Condo Sl.

The shopping mall has a total area of ​​13,660 meters square, although the maximum floor area is 5467 meters square. This plot can be used for hotels, sports facilities, offices, parks and shops, but any other uses are prohibited in this space, as defined in the document issued by the Murcia Joint Procedure of Execution.

"We will try to avoid foreclosure"
said the company that owns the development and shopping center, Condo Key SL,: theyconfirm receipt of the attachment order, but argue that "one of the shareholders of the resort is a Dutch bank, which has been taken over by the government of that country" . Mosa Trajectum Developer maintains their 'confidence "that 'auction will not be held because we shall find a solution".

The countdown has begun for the company Key Condo SL. If they want the shopping centre (valued at more than 26 million euros) to remain their property, they must qualify with the alternatives offered by the court in the process of foreclosure, within 60 days.

The payment of the debt and the possibility of reaching an agreement and implementing the solutions available to owner of Mosa Trajectum, are necessary to avoid the auction.

At any time before the auction, Key Condo SL can pay in full what it owes the principal petitioner in the mall and avoid the impoundment.

In addition, the executive may ask the clerk, acting under Article 640 of the Code of Civil Procedure, to convene a hearing to prevent the auction and provide the most effective implementation of the property with performance targets. At the hearing, Condo Key may submit a person who offers to buy the mall Mosa Trajectum at a higher price than could be achieved by judicial auction.

While the future of the mall is decided in the courts, the residents of the resort, which has more than four hundred properties, complain in online forums that "they paid top dollar for the properties (€365,000+) but they feel cheated because the properties are now worthless. Although we were promised that we would have the services needed to live, after ten years, we no pharmacy, no supermarket, no doctor. "
Besides confirming that complaints have been filed "because the walls have to be supported:, there are raised and cracked pavements and pools," owners also complain in the Forum of the current situation where all the streetlights in the Resort are turned off because of default in paying for the electricity.
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Reading betyween the lines, it sounds vey much as though this action has not been instigated by any of the involved banks here, but by Murcia Ayuntamiento itself, and against Key Condo SL for whatever reasons they may themselves have?

What initially springs to mind is unpaid IVA, Licences, Taxes, Fees, etc - hence the very specific, albeit rather peculiar, price of €27,680,940.

If it is an action solely by Murcia Ayuntamiento, is there also not a real fear that Murcia Ayuntamiento could have placed a sequestation order on the supposed Bond that The Key are claimed to have lodged?

Is there never any good news about Mosa?

I hope that someone comes up with a better translation, and proves that I'm wrong, wrong, wrong!
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The speed limit on Autovia's has reverted back to the previous 120kmp.
The reduction to 110 was introduced some 2/3 months ago, to:
save fuel: save lives: make Spain more "Green". (And just possibly, to obtain millions of euros in speeding fines?)

Probably all were achieved, as there was certainly a reduction of millions of litres of fuel used, but the financial genius who dreamt it all up failed to take into account just one little side effect - that less fuel used meant less fuel-tax revenue going to the Government.

So saving fuel, saving lives, making the Country more Green have all been put on the back-burner in favour of tax revenue, and up went the speed limit again.

I wonder if they'll dock the cost of all the hundreds of thousands of Stickers required, not to mention all the thousands of man hours in popping the stickers on every speed limit sign in Spain (and then removing them again) from his salary?

Or perhaps he's been transferred to Brussels to advise on their economic problems?
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